mad, you point about "hiding cricket behind a paywall..." is so true. That 3-part series that Andrew Flintoff did about getting kids from poorer backgrounds, brought a few good points up. Initially all the kids bar about 3 thought it was a sport played by posh kids and once they got to know more about it and how to play it, they were surprised by how much they enjoyed it. That's is all it needs, the exposure instead of just not bothering and instead trying to just go on year after year telling kids that Football is the only thing that matters.

Just as another partnership builds, we lose wicket number 6.

Me as well, it make sense if you love cricket.

To be fair, we beat Derbyshire away but never got a chance at home with loads of rain and didn't get beyond 4 overs of trying to chase about 215. As for the game at Worcester which I watched, the pitch was dead and doubt even an extra day would have produced a result. The bowling was good but we did have a few bad days batting.

18 CC matches tells it's own story and that is about 3 games a year and at some stage it was either retirement or choose another place to play. We will see if he can tag a few CC appearances together for Notts but I somehow doubt it.

Whatever team we put out, any side would be happy to play us but every member of that side who play Surrey must tell themselves that this where they get their form back and start earning their money or else 2nd division cricket will be waiting for them. It's not always about playing badly for 4 days, it's getting ourselves into good positions and then throwing it away that is really annoying.

I think Notts will struggle to get a full season of games out of him. He might play T20 and maybe a few 50-over games but CC appearances could be limited. Ever since we signed him he has not strung that many CC games together.

It wouldn't be such a shock seeing as we have a history of letting bowlers go, Wright and Barker to name 2 and they haven't done much since, have they.....Oh! Wait a minute..

Inept and just completely incompetent. So glad I did not waste petrol money on that performance. Kent must be wondering why they batted on so long and any rain about didn't deserve to get us out of that. If a meeting isn't held by the management after this then they deserve to just pack their bags and go.

Henry is a good bowler but this bloke Saini took 5 in the first innings and hardly seemed to bowl that many good balls, a mixture of no-balls, innocuous bouncers and 4 balls. I think with his ordinary record, it is our batsmen making him look good, we appear to have done plenty of that this season. Pity we didn't think along the same lines. I suppose to be fair, at the beginning of the season, the management saw Woakes, Stone, OHD, Norwell, Miles and McAndrew and wondered who they would have to leave out. They wouldn't have known about injuries. Having said that, the batting is woeful and we are even making this Quinn look like a demon.

If only the management came on this site, they would see what we all think of the way our team are performing. We don't want to criticise but it is getting to be beyond a joke if the same mistakes are being made over and over again. If we, without any qualifications in coaching (I haven't in any form, perhaps some on here have) can see how players are getting out or bowlers throwing pies, then what are the men with the certificates doing? No good suddenly realising what is wrong if we are stuck at the bottom of the table. It isn't just on the field, who had the final say on overseas players in both CC and T20? Who put Benjamin at 3 and why is Danny Briggs in T20 coming in after everyone else - This is the man who hit a very quick 50 in last years deciding CC game when we needed to score a certain amount of runs, in the most pressurised situation he has ever been in. Would love to get a message to the lot of them, "Dear management, on our site we might not have all the solutions but at least we can see the problems which you seem to be missing".

The weather looks bad tomorrow (Am I clinging on here) so if I was Billings, I would have declared with a lead of about 290. Perhaps he is happy with a draw. The bowling will have to be looked at for next season as OHD cannot be burdened with being the only strike bowler if our injuries do not improve. If Dawson is outbowling Briggs then that is an issue as Dawson outbowling anyone is cause for concern for any spinner. I didn't realise that Davies played another horrendous shot v Hampshire after playing one of the worst I have ever seen v THE SAME OPPONENTS in the T20 Q-F. Do players not learn from previous mistakes. I am not even thinking of going tomorrow and maybe the weather forecast is a blessing.

BristolBear, you have it right as most of us have witnessed. Cannot think of what our score might have been without Hain in this game. OHD was getting baked on the first day but bowled like he has done all season, with no complaints or histrionics. Looks like no one will be able to use these conditions. It is a million miles away from Tuesday when I baked in the shade and it would be strange that a low scoring game might end up being drawn as tomorrow looks bleak as well.

Looking at the forecast last night and this morning. It looks very dull and very rainy for tomorrow - Could it be that this game might actually be a rain affected draw if the forecast is correct, would we have thought this after the first day, a lot to be decided before then though.

Yes Malc, all of the above adds to the frustration of being there and being annoyed (AGAIN). If we know Sibley is going then we have to ask the question, "Just how much does a player who is going, care about playing out his contract". They messed Chopra about in similar circumstances. A lot was talked about Miles yesterday and he looks well off the pace at this level and his accuracy has been missing all season. A good/bad session for us first thing tomorrow could decide this game. The sort of commitment that Sam showed in his innings should be a lesson to his team mates. He was totally unselfish and put faith in OHD as so many have this season and never thought about his 100 until it got within a single. I had never seen a player get out live for 99 in the 45 years I have been watching this season it happens twice. The pitch has not looked a minefield but a 250+ runchase will be difficult.

Stone stranded 92* having run out of partners.

meashambear - You are right in every respect. It does make more sense to have someone who has opened, to come in at 3 instead of a player who is young and has not found his feet yet. No one fears our bowling with OHD way ahead of the others. Miles concedes too many runs and if he could at least contain for a bit, he could build up some pressure that way.

A real shock to hear on the way to the ground, that we were bowling. Cannot complain once they were 43-5. Pity we could not have held on 3 down at the close as they were running out of ideas and steam. Even worse as Saidi bowled plenty of rubbish with so many 4 balls, no-balls and innocuous bouncers that when he did get a ball in the right place, it confused the batsman. Would love an 80 lead but it looks way off at the moment.

He is but it is yet another 'Shocker' in a season which has seen some awful umpiring. There is a fine line between disappointment and dissent but if the umpire says he showed dissent then he can say "only because it was a poor decision".

Every player will be saying to every captain, "You had better win the toss or else, if you think I am going to enjoy chasing leather all day, think again...". If we do have to bowl first, I dare any of our batsmen to say, "You bowlers, the sooner you get them out, the sooner we can sit in the pavilion eating Fab lollies".