And then someone from the ECB will wonder where the next batch of Test players are coming from, they never think about the good of the whole game. They will tell us about all the money that certain competitions are making and how 'Grass Roots' cricket will benefit but never think about kids who watch the awful Hundread, they do not want to sit and watch CC cricket at this time of year because they are at school or they will not want to sit and freeze or watch the rain come down, hardly an incentive to provide the next Root/Anderson. We are getting mixed messages though about this so-called dominating Summer format, all the figures appear to point to it losing money so why prop it up if it isn't making money, George Dobell suggests it's losing money and didn't someone from Worcestershire (Chairman?) actually produce a set of figures to say the same.

Yes, OHD's potential is there but he hasn't had the partners to stick with him when he needs them most, they let him down and leave him stranded when a ton is there for the taking, something else to put right for next season.

LeicesterExile wrote:

UrsaMinor wrote:

Not to mention Birmingham boy Andrew Symonds.
I'm loving the fact that we have a thread started about our next game that has filled three pages before the squad is even announced! The randomness could be a metaphor for our whole season.

And they say women can talk................hey hey
Yes, but we talk about important matters like cricket.

Should imagine he would be captain in any cricket team and you can just guess at all the meetings, all the other team members, "Bloody Albert, I mean, he is a decent bloke but these meetings, I mean, can anyone understand a word he is on about and when he gets his pen and paper out and tries to explain what is on his mind, I am just lost. Oh! And I wish he'd get his flippin' hair cut, he shows us up in the team photos".

Very surprised that they got any play in at all but I would be a bit miffed as a Somerset supporter as stronger teams usually prevail better in longer games whereas a short game can even things up a bit. Surprised at Somerset's slow batting early on, 69 runs from 64 balls from the first 3 batsmen. Hampshire could probably finish 2nd in the CC which will at least stop Somerset from finishing 2nd in all competitions like they did in 2010.

Best chance of survival is to have Davies in who can at least score runs, playing in his normal position. Benjamin has no place in any side.

Not sure what happens if they cannot play this week with CC fixtures starting on Thursday.

Talk about 'Soggiest of Squibs', fancy holding the 50 over final on a Sunday, it it's held over till tomorrow, how many fans will have booked the day off work if that is the case. Might have got it finished yesterday, at least having it over the weekend, it gives you a chance. Weather looks poor all week so that might mean we can save the fingernail biting until next season, we shall see.

And there was me thinking you were a nipper, Gerry. I would love to think that somewhere there is film of this final but from what I heard, ITV in the Midlands (Probably elsewhere) showed the final, not sure if it was filmed and because Warwickshire needed the grand sum of 5 runs per over, the ITV Midlands idiots, chose to leave the game as they assumed that a team could not possibly score at such an alarming rate so anyone who was a Bear, had to turn on the radio and listen. Quite unbelievable. Alan Smith scored 39 out of the 60 that he and Amiss put on to win. I have a programme and ticket from the game that I got on e-bay for £8, bargain.

He was a left-armer, bowled 'Chinamen' from what I have gathered from books and yes, did bowl in a Gillette Cup final (12-0-63-0) when Tom Cartwright had to pull out at the last minute, not sure if he bowled medium pace or not. Does anyone know anybody who went to any of those Gillette finals in 1966 or 1968.

That would be ludicrous, we would be better off if Robinson himself decided to play. Maybe they could ask Dennis if he still has his gear despite not using it since 1987.

Not sure the suggestion of leaving out Rhodes is a good idea. Just because he had a poor game v Essex, so did all batmen. He is in form has had his best season with the bat and I think he would relish a chance to score some runs to help us survive. Not sure that Woakes would be allowed to play but what a boost that would be if he could. I would not even want Benjamin near the team or Mousely who hasn't had a good bat since The Hundread and didn't score many then.

I can understand anyone saying that some people there, feel that they are working for 'Edgbaston' and not Warwickshire and one thing that Jeetan Patel often talked about when we had new players, was instilling the history of the club to the point of wanting them to know the history and making them feel that it was important. I get the feeling because most people in the game appear to have written off the 50 over cup, then we only have 2 competitions left so we will put all our eggs in one basket and focus on T20. That didn't work for whatever reason, freezing during the knockout stages, poor team selection and not having a plan B. We are in danger of getting to the point of 2016-17 all over again, so many players getting too samey and not enough new blood coming in and making a claim - Having said that we do have players like Hamza Shaikh and Kai Smith with great futures but in those years mentioned above, we had Bell, Trott, Stone, Woakes, Clarke, Ambrose, Hain, Evans Patel, Wright, Barker, etc and we still went down in 2017 and saved ourselves on the last day, the previous season. Are the management just saying, "So and so is still good we can rely on him..." and is there a case for giving any younger players a chance, biting the bullet and accepting we might have to get relegated to build a slightly new looking side. We did it from 2019, bringing in a few faces and the CC winning side of 2021 looked completely different to the side who won the 2nd division title in 2018. None of us have a magic wand but I would hate us to not progress at all next season and to see us do the same as this season.

I would love to see us dig deep and give a good performance v Notts and put some pride into the last game of the season. In terms of what we have done, I would say we have done more than a lot of counties as yet again we have finished top of the T20 group but unfortunately not gone on further to finals day and in the One-Day Cup we have qualified again but more sympathy here as that dreadful competition that I do not want to mention, kept wiping out our squad with as many as 10 (Lions teams also) missing at any one time. But I love CC cricket more and at one time, we had more bonus points than anyone in total and cannot seem to push on to get into winning positions. I have been a member since 1990 and the one thing that annoys me is the lack of facing-up to bad performances which never really happened when I first became a member. We know the problems that not getting a good overseas pro, is causing and the frustration of not going on to finals in white-ball cricket (I hate that term but will use it here) but the sooner we get honesty from the right sources, the sooner we might all feel about getting behind our side. I retire soon (No, I am not old, just lucky in some ways to do so at 59) and so will be able to watch more than the 20-22 days I get to watch per season and maybe I will get to have a clearer view of things but we all agree we have problems, I just want to see us address them, do something about them and move onto better things.

Definitely the worst CC performance, at least in the other games, Surrey we got a few stinkers in the first innings and had no choice in the defeats to Essex (poor 2nd inns) and Somerset when they chased targets on good batting surfaces, but this was awful. No excuses about early morning movement like the first innings and I expected at least to make them bat again. Glad I didn't book time of to watch and on this performance, not many will go to Trent Bridge to see the season out. Roll on Winter, something I thought I would never say.

I think you don't quite understand my post. Nowhere on here have I said that anyone is "...Accepting of the current situation...", what I have said is that I think many want the season over because they DO NOT ACCEPT THE SITUATION AND ARE FED UP WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS SEASON. Also I pointed out what so many have been saying about poor choices of overseas players and not facing up to being knocked out of the T20 which are down to management. Not sure how you managed to interpret what I posted as completely the opposite.

Yes, looks like 2 days in a row batting at 10.30, but symptomatic of the last 40+ years of poor over rates where the authorities feel we have to start at this time, just to get a days play in. I hope the side do not feel they are in a 'Cannot get relegated because....' situation. Lancashire are right back in their game so even if we lose and they win, there is still the possibility that if we have another bad first day in the next game, we could be left hoping Lancashire do not win with a good amount of bonus points. We all on here, appear to just want the season over and done with and the most annoying thing is lack of facing up to anything, the elimination again in the T20 Q-F, injury (Is it player age or just because they are pace bowlers) to players and lack of a decent and consistent overseas player. We know the days of Donald, Lara, Patel are probably over but other counties have got players somehow, who do a job for them. We might even struggle to recruit if a player looks at our situation and sees a team in decline, hardly a basis for wanting to join.

Does always seem a bit strange that we didn't get to finals day with a won 10 and lost 5 record, a ratio of 2:1 wins/defeats and Gloucestershire had 9 wins to 6 defeats a 3:2 ratio. It does feel weird that teams that scrape through (2014 yes we did) can have a worse playing record than other sides who don't even get to finals day, it just isn't a competition that rewards the best sides. The sooner they adopt the 50 over final format, the better, it isn't sour grapes, it's just frustrating to blow your whole season on 1 game after waltzing through the group stages and qualifying with games to go.

Well done Will, again. The fact that he does not need to play an innings like that, speaks volumes. He could have easily played a pretty 60 and sat in the pavilion with his feet up but he got stuck in and got the draw which looked unlikely after yesterday mornings debacle. The management should hang their heads for letting him go. Great not to lose to our neighbours and keep our 'Unbeaten v Worcs in CC since 2000', going. I think Shaikh will get a good run in the side but as we have said on here, a good overseas player is needed but who? Batsman or bowler? Retired from Tests or not? Would love a big, nasty fast bowler who could play a whole season.

There haven't been many moans about the captain in the last 2 days on here but we have heard plenty about the management but I think we are all so despondent that nothing will be done, that we have given up on Robinson/Frost moving on.