As I see it, Lancashire did know the laws by going (Or thinking about it until told otherwise) for a run once the stumps were broken knowing that overthrows are allowed in this way. I think the umpires just wanted to get off and in this situation the ECB will always back the officials, being the conformists that they are.
I think in a situation like this, when whatever umpires meetings happen (If they do), they need to clarify this situation in case it happens again and so that every player/umpire/management, have a clear message about how the laws work in this situation. Unfortunately, I doubt that it will happen and that it will be forgotten. In normal circumstances, with the stumps broken and the batsman ,Well in', if the ball ricocheted away, the batsmen would try and get another run and to run them out, the fielding side would need to have ball in hand with a stump taken out. If all stumps are in the fielders hands because they assume they won and are gathering souvenirs, tough, they should be told "You assumed it was over and if you remove all stumps then that is your fault". Looks like this will ramble on, just a pity it was in a final and not a meaningless game where neither side had anything riding on the result. I feel for Lancashire and think they were hard done by.
SC_Bear, you know what they say about 'Common Sense', it's not very common. I have been to Death Valley, extraordinary place, the only place so quiet where I could hear the second hand on my watch and yes, very, very hot. It does not look anything like Birmingham though.
By the letter of the law they are right but seeing as the 'keeper attempted a run out and the ball broke the stumps with the batsman well in, under normal play, the batting side could try for what could be deemed, as an overthrow and go for a run. I doubt it makes a difference whether it is the first or last ball. If this is the case in future, any team can break the stumps on the last ball and assume the game will be over and the ball called dead. I agree with Vilas and that the umpires were too hasty to 'Assume' the ball was dead. If it happened to us, I would be furious and it looks as though luck has shone on Hampshire yet again.
Would love to have seen Hampshire lose as they got away with last ball mayhem a few years ago when they had a runner for a batsman and on the last ball, all 3 ran and it caused all sorts of confusion and Somerset should have been awarded the game.
I will be there for all 4 days unless the pitch is dead and it looks like a high scoring draw. I will definitely be in shelter on the first day, I am very brown anyway being a groundsman who works outside all year so no hurry to top up the tan but do not want to burn either.
In terms of bonus points, they matter little unless you bowl a side out cheaply and getting them out for 400 in 110 overs will get you more bonus points than having a side 250-8 at the 110 over mark. It seems to me that just about every player has not been as consistent as last season and when 11 players in one team do that, then there will be a huge problem. We have a good bowling attack when we get them onto the field at all times but the loss of Woakes, Norwell and Stone (If he was ever considered for a CC place) is crucial and if it wasn't for O.H-D's vast improvement over the last 4 years, we would be in an even bigger hole. Briggs does not look like a player who will get you 5-60 on the last day with the pitch turning square and just chipped in usefully last year. When the management look at an overseas player for next year, I hope it is someone who once played Tests and still has plenty to offer and someone who will make the opposition worried. Jeetan had this effect and every county knew he was a threat and Harmer at Essex has it also. We cannot have someone who doesn't even seem worth his place in the team.
Another game where we are looking at a draw as being the best we can hope for. Very ** off at not having Hain for this game, reminds me of 2010 when both Bell, Trott and Woakes were included in a Lions side to play India 'A' whilst Harmison was ripping us apart at Riverside. They would have got better practice playing for us instead of the Lions, where players are depriving their counties of their services in games that no one is really that bothered about. I know I am going away from the subject here but it is annoying and disruptive.
Davies is going to have to watch how he gets out and what shots to play. After that absolute shocker of a dismissal in the T20 QF, the management might eventually run out of patience with him. A great start and unless we get a lot of early wickets, we could be chasing the game and yes Lilly, you are right, this has been a season that I will file under 'Urrrgh!'.
Again we seemed to lower our standards against a team we should have beaten. There are only the 2 openers in their team who I would actually have in our side, the rest are journeymen who made us look ordinary. We have all been saying the same things about Davies and Stirling all season in this competition and I hope we don't see the latter again and the shot Davies played was just 100% horseshit. That put on the back foot for the rest of the innings and 187 should have been more than straightforward for us. Brathwaite has been poor and if not for that last over heroics for the Windies in the T20 world cup final, no one would know who he was and he has made a living off it ever since. If you look at his T20 record, it is very poor and not worthy of an overseas pro. We seem to have a habit of making a mess of QF's after a good showing in the qualifying tables. Disappointing evening not helped by the stupid confusing road works nearby that made me have to do an extra 3 miles just to get home 8 miles away.
I didn't either but Leicestershire must be hurting after Yorkshire only scraped through because of the point deduction that Leicestershire got and that after beating them in the last game. Sometimes when fortune smiles at you in cricket it can take you all the way, Worcestershire's CC titles in 1964, 1974,1988 and 1989, Hampshire being saved from relegation in 2016, Pakistan's world cup 1992. There are many more.
Yes, you should only really sign an overseas pro for the T20 if it makes any Bears fan look at the screen/paper/radio when the announcement comes, with a huge smile on their face. If you have to say "Who?" then it is probably a bad signing.
Glad Sky are not showing it so that any Bears fans who cannot get to the game and don't have Sky, can see it online. Good to see that Sky don't get everything - Great to 'Sock It To The Man' occasionally.
Glad Sky are not showing it so that any Bears fans who cannot get to the game and don't have Sky, can see it online. Good to see that Sky don't get everything - Great to 'Sock It To The Man' occasionally.
That is what we have done well over the years - Had a success from a certain player doing a certain thing and then not letting that thing be unleashed in the next game. Darren Maddy and Chopra were well known for not bowling out certain bowlers who had 3 overs and who had been the least expensive. Mousley has been a revelation and who knows what he could have done, this from a captain who has done very little so far in this campaign. Please Mr Brathwaite, turn up for the QF as it's a knock put and we need a full performance.
I don't think his record is good enough to warrant re-signing him and it is a waste in getting him to play CC cricket as he was a reluctant player in that form at Worcestershire with very diminished returns. I saw his T20 record flash up on the board during the T20 Blast game a few weeks ago and I wasn't that impressed with that either. Where does this leave both Briggs and Lintott.
It's good that we don't have to pay for a QF as we had to a few years ago. So glad that they managed to fit in a date that suited all.
The T20 Blast QF's are on 6th,8th,9th and 10th of July, there is no cricket at Edgbaston until 10th July T20 v India. Could it not be played on 6th July and surely that would give groundstaff plenty of time (3 days) to clear the ground for the India game.
Very unusual to have a domestic game a day before an international game and so this is the reason why we will have to play it elsewhere. I think it's all to do with clearing up and re-arranging the adverts and different displays that are around the ground.
Duckworth/Lewis has always been ridiculous on the basis that it might have to be a mathematical equation to try and resolve games but the more games that are decided using this method, the more extreme it will get. Also, it can never decide on the strength of a batting line up. Have to laugh at the subtitles "Great deaf bowling from breath away" instead of " Great death bowling from Brathwaite".