He was a left-armer, bowled 'Chinamen' from what I have gathered from books and yes, did bowl in a Gillette Cup final (12-0-63-0) when Tom Cartwright had to pull out at the last minute, not sure if he bowled medium pace or not. Does anyone know anybody who went to any of those Gillette finals in 1966 or 1968.

That would be ludicrous, we would be better off if Robinson himself decided to play. Maybe they could ask Dennis if he still has his gear despite not using it since 1987.

Not sure the suggestion of leaving out Rhodes is a good idea. Just because he had a poor game v Essex, so did all batmen. He is in form has had his best season with the bat and I think he would relish a chance to score some runs to help us survive. Not sure that Woakes would be allowed to play but what a boost that would be if he could. I would not even want Benjamin near the team or Mousely who hasn't had a good bat since The Hundread and didn't score many then.

I can understand anyone saying that some people there, feel that they are working for 'Edgbaston' and not Warwickshire and one thing that Jeetan Patel often talked about when we had new players, was instilling the history of the club to the point of wanting them to know the history and making them feel that it was important. I get the feeling because most people in the game appear to have written off the 50 over cup, then we only have 2 competitions left so we will put all our eggs in one basket and focus on T20. That didn't work for whatever reason, freezing during the knockout stages, poor team selection and not having a plan B. We are in danger of getting to the point of 2016-17 all over again, so many players getting too samey and not enough new blood coming in and making a claim - Having said that we do have players like Hamza Shaikh and Kai Smith with great futures but in those years mentioned above, we had Bell, Trott, Stone, Woakes, Clarke, Ambrose, Hain, Evans Patel, Wright, Barker, etc and we still went down in 2017 and saved ourselves on the last day, the previous season. Are the management just saying, "So and so is still good we can rely on him..." and is there a case for giving any younger players a chance, biting the bullet and accepting we might have to get relegated to build a slightly new looking side. We did it from 2019, bringing in a few faces and the CC winning side of 2021 looked completely different to the side who won the 2nd division title in 2018. None of us have a magic wand but I would hate us to not progress at all next season and to see us do the same as this season.

I would love to see us dig deep and give a good performance v Notts and put some pride into the last game of the season. In terms of what we have done, I would say we have done more than a lot of counties as yet again we have finished top of the T20 group but unfortunately not gone on further to finals day and in the One-Day Cup we have qualified again but more sympathy here as that dreadful competition that I do not want to mention, kept wiping out our squad with as many as 10 (Lions teams also) missing at any one time. But I love CC cricket more and at one time, we had more bonus points than anyone in total and cannot seem to push on to get into winning positions. I have been a member since 1990 and the one thing that annoys me is the lack of facing-up to bad performances which never really happened when I first became a member. We know the problems that not getting a good overseas pro, is causing and the frustration of not going on to finals in white-ball cricket (I hate that term but will use it here) but the sooner we get honesty from the right sources, the sooner we might all feel about getting behind our side. I retire soon (No, I am not old, just lucky in some ways to do so at 59) and so will be able to watch more than the 20-22 days I get to watch per season and maybe I will get to have a clearer view of things but we all agree we have problems, I just want to see us address them, do something about them and move onto better things.

Definitely the worst CC performance, at least in the other games, Surrey we got a few stinkers in the first innings and had no choice in the defeats to Essex (poor 2nd inns) and Somerset when they chased targets on good batting surfaces, but this was awful. No excuses about early morning movement like the first innings and I expected at least to make them bat again. Glad I didn't book time of to watch and on this performance, not many will go to Trent Bridge to see the season out. Roll on Winter, something I thought I would never say.

I think you don't quite understand my post. Nowhere on here have I said that anyone is "...Accepting of the current situation...", what I have said is that I think many want the season over because they DO NOT ACCEPT THE SITUATION AND ARE FED UP WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS SEASON. Also I pointed out what so many have been saying about poor choices of overseas players and not facing up to being knocked out of the T20 which are down to management. Not sure how you managed to interpret what I posted as completely the opposite.

Yes, looks like 2 days in a row batting at 10.30, but symptomatic of the last 40+ years of poor over rates where the authorities feel we have to start at this time, just to get a days play in. I hope the side do not feel they are in a 'Cannot get relegated because....' situation. Lancashire are right back in their game so even if we lose and they win, there is still the possibility that if we have another bad first day in the next game, we could be left hoping Lancashire do not win with a good amount of bonus points. We all on here, appear to just want the season over and done with and the most annoying thing is lack of facing up to anything, the elimination again in the T20 Q-F, injury (Is it player age or just because they are pace bowlers) to players and lack of a decent and consistent overseas player. We know the days of Donald, Lara, Patel are probably over but other counties have got players somehow, who do a job for them. We might even struggle to recruit if a player looks at our situation and sees a team in decline, hardly a basis for wanting to join.

Does always seem a bit strange that we didn't get to finals day with a won 10 and lost 5 record, a ratio of 2:1 wins/defeats and Gloucestershire had 9 wins to 6 defeats a 3:2 ratio. It does feel weird that teams that scrape through (2014 yes we did) can have a worse playing record than other sides who don't even get to finals day, it just isn't a competition that rewards the best sides. The sooner they adopt the 50 over final format, the better, it isn't sour grapes, it's just frustrating to blow your whole season on 1 game after waltzing through the group stages and qualifying with games to go.

Well done Will, again. The fact that he does not need to play an innings like that, speaks volumes. He could have easily played a pretty 60 and sat in the pavilion with his feet up but he got stuck in and got the draw which looked unlikely after yesterday mornings debacle. The management should hang their heads for letting him go. Great not to lose to our neighbours and keep our 'Unbeaten v Worcs in CC since 2000', going. I think Shaikh will get a good run in the side but as we have said on here, a good overseas player is needed but who? Batsman or bowler? Retired from Tests or not? Would love a big, nasty fast bowler who could play a whole season.

There haven't been many moans about the captain in the last 2 days on here but we have heard plenty about the management but I think we are all so despondent that nothing will be done, that we have given up on Robinson/Frost moving on.

Just had a quick look through my Warwickshire Yearbooks to see when the last time we lost v Worcestershire in the CC and I think it was a 2nd Division game - in 2000.

Where is all the rain at Worcester that we have had in Halesowen which is not that far away. I do not want to lose to this lot, it has been so long since we lost to them in a CC game, that I cannot even remember when it was.

Agree, he was an absolute diamond, wanted to play in all the games and trained like mad to make himself the first name on the team sheet. I voted for him as our best overseas player ever and although I loved AD, Jeetan was more successful because we were very successful during his playing years. We did get lucky though with him because New Zealand refused to pick him so he was available all the time. We also appear to be unlucky in getting players from other counties recently and obviously I am not including OHD, Barnard, Rhodes or Burgess in that as they took over from Clarke, Chopra, Ambrose, Rankin, Wright, etc.

I know what you mean, it might not be anything major, just maybe a series of things which keep repeating themselves. For instance in this latest game, we had them 67-4 and they get 307, we were 76-1 and are now 112-4. It is because we have seen it so many times over the last 3 seasons (including this one) and it gets to be a little bit annoying to the point that you wonder, if you like me, are a member, is it worth renewing for the 2025 season. The combination of performance and the feeling that sometimes it is frustrating to see the same mistakes being made over and over and that the management appear to not address it or make excuses, the old "We will take the positives...." baloney. There are certain things we haven't got but would like, 1. A couple of big nasty fast bowlers who can wipe out the tail 2. A good, reliable overseas player who will stay for a decent length of time to make a difference 3. Batting that is consistent in most games 4. the ability to win knock-out games. The first one might be the hardest but surely the second can not be that hard. The third one, well, we have the batsmen so it is up to them and the forth one is just about lifting yourself for the whole occasion and pushing yourself that bit extra to get over the line, maybe it's not even that as Friday's game should have been won without raising a sweat. Perhaps all this could be changed by new management but sometimes at this club, it is easier to keep your job than lose it. I think enthusiasm goes once you have nothing to play for as far as winning a cup is concerned. I just want us to avoid going down and for the season to be over soon.

This is getting annoying now, another case of us not wiping out the tail quickly enough.

Hardly worth him coming back, must have been a decent payday and that's it. Never seemed to have his heart in it all those years ago and it appears to not have changed.

Having a stronger South group than the North makes no difference as plenty of side have won the T20 whilst scraping through (We had to rely on Notts beating Yorkshire to get through in 2014 and won it) and they manage it in the 50-over cup, you just qualify if you are in the top 3 of each group.

I was more angry, all the hard work again only to be knocked out. That is why I always think it should be the same way as the 50-over cup, if you top your group, you go straight into the semi-final rather than lose because of one game against a team who scraped through in their group. Either way, it's infuriating but most people on here are fed up with the team selection which looks amateurish at best, not covering all basis and just seemingly hoping to win rather than putting out a team that would be hard to beat. Lots of reasons for Friday apart from team selection, trying to keep clearing a long boundary and being caught inside, panicking because we scored hardly anything from the first 3 overs and unprofessionally trying to get the total with time to spare instead of just knocking it around seeing as the rate wasn't even high, the fact that we lost without being bowled out is ridiculous in the face of 139. The amount of red-faced fury from fans as I left the ground was too many to count with shouts of "Every *** year", "Against a poor side like that", "Is this the best a club of our size and stature can do". I understood it all and I was one of those shouters.

Quite what I said when all the names for The Hundread came about, how many Lancashire fans who come from Blackburn or Preston, will want to associate themselves with a team called Manchester, the same as a team called 'Oval invincible's' will hardly be followed by fans of Essex or Middlesex. I think there was talk at the time of people from Warwick, Coventry and other parts of Warwickshire, feeling they were discarded from the conversation, a case of "Here you are, here is what we are giving you as a name, like it or lump it".