The_Lickey_Banker
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GerryShedd wrote:
I’ve ordered a poster of Che off the internet but, to be honest, it looks nothing like him.
Its the beard and wearing that square cap and a jungle camouflage T shirt, that throws you off a bit!
(VERY) early days, but who said the Development squad can't produce seam bowlers now?! I think I did!
Inside-edge wrote:
As debut spells go that was pretty impressive
6-2-10-3
Blimey, he's not got anywhere near those figures in 4 years playing for the Seconds! Just shows you what 'being fired up' by a First Team appearance can do!
Andy wrote:
He's probably worth a punt. Lancashire signed Will Williams like this, he was playing club in the UK then signed for Lancs mid season, and he turned out to be a good pick up. This lad does indeed have a modest record though. It is very difficult to pick up decent overseas players at the moment to be fair, like we've all said.
I'd have probably given Liam Guthrie, currently playing in the 2's, a go instead. He has a bit more pedigree, come through an extremely strong WA pathway in Aus and took a 6fer for QLD in the Sheffield Shield only a couple of months ago, he's also a left armer who i know definitely bowls high 80's.
Rae looks like a Gavin Larsen signing.
Didn't know this about Zaman Akhtar, we are becoming an increasingly odd run club though, who seems to miss out on talent right under our noses quite a lot.
I wish Michael Rae well though, hope he's quick, we're crying out for a bit of pace. Jamal looks like a bit of a trundler let's be honest.
With Guthrie turning out for the Seconds this week, I was half expecting him to get a short term contract and be called up for the Firsts. He looks a better bet than Rae (and that left arm option we seem to be desperate to bring in - so many in the Seconds team at the moment). I agree Larsen appears to be preferring his Kiwi mates.
We were put in (yesterday) by Notts and made 388 all out. A(nother) ton for Benjamin, 82 from Ismael Mohammed (off 82 balls, continuing his good form), 72 from Hamza S and 59 from Kai Smith. Tom Hinley made a quickfire 31 (off 25 balls) going in at 9. At Tea today we had Notts on 61 for 3, with 2 wickets for Guthrie and 1 for Garlick. Hishaam Khan & Ollie Sutton (making it 3 left arm seamers playing, with Guthrie) bowled very economically.
A few interesting additions to the team at Nottingham today:
Tom Hinley - a left arm spinner who had one CC appearance for Sussex (and came through the Development squads at Hove)
Hishaam Khan - a left arm seamer who's has played for Leicestershire & Kent Seconds, but most recently has been a regular in the Staffs MC team
Most interestingly, Liam Guthrie - a 27 year old Aussie, left arm fast bowler, who has many First Class & One Day appearances for Western Australia (and came through their Development squads), Tasmania & Hobart and this (Aussie) summer, for Queensland & Brisbane.
KingofSpain wrote:
Bears racked up 591. Kai Smith 170 not out off 192 balls. He is another talent set for a breakthrough year.
We went on this morning to reach 636 for 9 dec - mainly to see Kai Smith to his double ton (200 NO) - a 339 lead. So, it seem(s/ed) a likely innings win, but Glamorgan are now 126 for 1 (33 overs) - with that man, Zen Malik again, on 63 NO, a 102 run stand with Asa Tribe.
Glamorgan won the toss and chose to bat. They made 297 (with Zen Malik - who turned out for us in 2023 - getting 134 off 219 balls). 4 wickets for Captain Lintott (for 47, off 12 overs), 2 for Simmons (for 41), Toole (for 58) and 1 apiece for Ollie Sutton (for 43) & Jake Garlick (for 37). Miles and Mohammed also bowled (no wickets, but very economically).
Matt Burton, who's played a match for us this season, is playing for Glamorgan.
It looks likely that Sam will be playing for the First team again in the Surrey game (starting on Friday 10th). He's not been selected for the Seconds match at Portland Road today.
Just one change from the Sussex game - Theo Wylie in for Sam Hain. 2 left arm seamers again - Toole & Sutton. Garlick in as a bowler.
Just been away, so missed the Sussex game. I noticed that there was one new player drafted in with First team experience - Ray Toole, ex-Durham (a County cap for 1 appearance), Central Districts / Stags (around 50 appearances in the NZ Plunkett Shield, the 50 over Ford Trophy and the Twenty20) & Essex (a couple of outings in the T20) - a(nother) left arm seamer. Born in South Africa, I'm pretty sure he's not English qualified.
As well as the batting performances Highveld describes, some decent bowling, with a particularly good return from Ismael Mohammed (7 for 113 in the match).
Solbear wrote:
Great to see that Sam Hain is in the team for the delayed match against Lancs; hopefully a positive sign that he may be back in action for the first team soon ... although if the top three keep going the way they are his presence may not be necessary! Interesting too to see that two Flintoffs are playing for Lancs:
https://live.nvplay.com/ecb/?tab=m_summary#m95fcca02-3916-4fad-bd22-aa9c50cf3edf
As well as Sam Hain playing, we've got 2 youngsters in, who've played for Worcester 2nds this season. Ollie Sutton (a left arm seamer) and Ismail Mohammed (a very promising batsman, who has also played for the South Asian team - and us last season). They're in for Nikki Gorantla (who got a ton against Essex) and Matt Burton.
The_Lickey_Banker wrote:
They've actually made a start this morning (at both grounds) ! Seconds team:-
Hamza Shaikh
Amir Khan
Chris Benjamin (Keeper - one of 3 in the team !)
Nikhil Gorantla (RB - played a few 2nds games for us last year, from Essex 2nds & Cambridgeshire)
Kai Smith
Theo Wylie
George Maddy
Jake Lintott (Captain)
Che Simmons
Jacob Garlick (RB, RM - from the Academy)
Tom Davis (RB, RM - from Kent 2nds)
Matt Burton (LB, RM - from Worcester, Hampshire 2nds & Wiltshire)Essex won the toss, choes to bat and are currently 69 for 3 (a wicket apiece for Burton, Simmons and Davis - all clean bowled)
https://edgbaston.com/fixtures/second-xi/warwickshire-vs-essex-15-april-2024/#match-match-reports
We lost by just 28 runs. A pretty good report on the County site.
5 stand out batsmen - Nikki Gorantla got a ton in the 2nd innings, Benjamin and Lintott got 50's in the 1st. Hamza Shaikh and Amir Khan got decent scores in both innings.
As for bowlers, one of the new lads, Tom Davis got a 5 for 75 in the 2nd innings (8 for 118 in the match). He was the stand out bowler - but there were creditable figures for Matt Burton (4 for 112 in tbe match). Simmons did alright in the 1st innings (3 for 72), but was tonked (no wickets) in the 2nd. Captain Lintott just bowled himself in the 2nd (2 for 57) - presumably under instructions from Robbo, to give the youngsters a long bowl. Young Theo Wylie didn't get much of a look in though (1 for 6) and Jake Garlick wasn't used much (2 for 57).
They've actually made a start this morning (at both grounds) ! Seconds team:-
Hamza Shaikh
Amir Khan
Chris Benjamin (Keeper - one of 3 in the team !)
Nikhil Gorantla (RB - played a few 2nds games for us last year, from Essex 2nds & Cambridgeshire)
Kai Smith
Theo Wylie
George Maddy
Jake Lintott (Captain)
Che Simmons
Jacob Garlick (RB, RM - from the Academy)
Tom Davis (RB, RM - from Kent 2nds)
Matt Burton (LB, RM - from Worcester, Hampshire 2nds & Wiltshire)
Essex won the toss, choes to bat and are currently 69 for 3 (a wicket apiece for Burton, Simmons and Davis - all clean bowled)
GerryShedd wrote:
Andy wrote:
First thimg that springs to mind is back when Taunton had them silly excessively turning tracks I remember Ravi Patel took 7fer for Middlesex v Somerset, fairly sure that was on the first day. 2016 or 2017 sounds about right.
Yes, you're right about Ravi Patel.
Alex has three more wickets already in the second innings, so ten in the match.
Alex has already got a 5'fer in the 2nd innings (5 for 96) - and could get more (Glamorgan 7 down).
Who says an early season experiment for the Kookaburra ball is stupid - it will only help the spinners on dry August wickets (well, I do actually!) - perhaps AT is the exception to the rule. Another player we'll miss?!
ExiledBrummie wrote:
So Miles in for Booth I guess.
Hain, Hassan Ali, Booth, Norwell unavailable.
An overseas bowler tbc soon.
Yep, Benjamin and Simmons to miss out.
With Hassan flying in at the weekend, the new Overseas bowler will be competing with him for the Hampshire game. It will be interesting who is left out.
Andy wrote:
I don't think the batting in the 1st innings has been as big an issue as what's been made out. Sure it would have been nice if someone could have gone onto three figures but we've made 333 without Hain and we do have a pretty long tail. We'd have struggled to make 200 last season under the same circumstances.
Bowling has been more of a concern. Lack of pace in our attack has been totally exposed. Someone on a previous page criticised the Worcestershire attack, I think that's harsh on Smith and Finch who have got pace (particularly Smith) and the whole attack is probably a little more varied than ours. We've looked pop gun. 3 more rounds of Kookaburra this season is it? We're crying out for someone with a yard of pace here.
If Hassan and Norwell are still both unavailable for Durham, I wonder whether Garton might be called up? It has been said that he could be considered for redball. He is genuinely quick and a left armer is something we have been sorely missing since Barker left.
Match reports of the 2 x 90 over red ball game with Yorkshire in Abu Dhabi.
We (sort of) lost, but some good performances - batting yesterday particularly - but OHD and Norwell bowling well today.
Bald_Reynard wrote:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/cricket/warwickshires-recruitment-id-potential-end-28849961
Cain's interview with the Mail didn't throw up too many surprises, but there was one thing that stood out. We're leaving it late to sign a second Overseas player. I guess a batsman - possibly one who might offer a backup spin option?
I don't know about a batsman who could offer a spin option, I do agree that any second Overseas signing, could be a batter though. Cain didn't indicate if it might for red ball - we obviously still need an Overseas player for T20 (though of course we do usually go for an all rounder).
BristolBear wrote:
Definitely agree that the bowling might be undone by a lack of depth. If Norwell does get injured again, you rely entirely on Hassan to be the point of difference. If he’s not there, then OHD, Rushworth, Miles, Barnard all relatively similar in that they rely on swing and consistency to take wickets. Fantastic bowlers but as we saw at times last year, if conditions don’t suit them, wickets can be hard to come by.
There are a couple of wildcards in the mix this season. Michael Booth, while no great (statistical) pedigree in Seconds cricket, did show glimpses of pace and accuracy last year - and did well in Abu Dhabi. And while the club have only (officially) signed George Garton for white ball, I have a sneaking suspicion that we could see his left arm seam in some red ball games.
https://edgbaston.com/news/warwickshire-confirm-pre-season-match-schedule/
Middle East Tour schedule and other pre-season games.