GerryShedd
Super Moderator
To be fair, the Indian Express almost got it right. The match was in 1895, it was between Leicestershire and Surrey. But it was at Leicester, not the Oval; and Surrey's Tom Hayward took 1-0 off three balls in the first innings and 2-0 off another three balls in the second innings.
Highveld wrote:
Wasn't it claimed when he first joined us that due to hand injuries he was not able to keep in red ball games.
So either he's had a miracules recovery of he has been selfishly playing when he know he was not fit enough to perform the full demands of the rol, and harming the team, and the development of other players.
Also most of his dismissals, this year, if not longer have not needed an umpires decision they are so obviously out.
You are right on both counts, Highveld. My comments about the umpire's finger were a lame attempt at humour.
That well-known publication, The Indian Express, claims that "Manav Suthar became only the second man in all First-Class history to pick up at least one wicket in both innings of a match without conceding a single run."
They rather spoil their credibility by claiming that he equalled the record of "English pioneer Tom Hayward, who effected three dismissals in six deliveries across two innings for Leicestershire against Surrey in 1895 at the Oval."
In fact, Hayward played for Surrey, not Leicestershire; and in the match quoted, he took 0-7 in the first innings and 1-20 in the second. So goodness knows whose record Suthar equalled.
I think maybe Alex Davies' "finger problem" consists mainly of umpires raising one to give him out.
An article in The Cricketer paints a lurid picture of all the changes in wicket keepers that may take place before next season.
In relation to Warwickshire, it says:
Leicestershire' Ben "Cox, 34, is out of contract at the end of the season and has been courted by other counties. Warwickshire – for whom both Alex Davies, who has struggled with a finger problem, and the inexperienced Kai Smith have another year remaining on their respective contracts – have been understood to be among those potential suitors. Yet, it is unclear whether they will move for a new gloveman this winter. Every county in the land – Ian Westwood's men included – would be better for seeing if James Bracey, the third-highest run-scorer in the country, could be tempted to swap Bristol, even with two seasons remaining on his existing contract."
They are not allowed to play for another eight days.
Andy wrote:
Che Simmons is signing for Gloucestershire.
I hope this is a good move for him.
When I first saw him several years ago in a pre-season game at Taunton, I thought he looked like a fantastic prospect - a lovely lithe action. I don't know why he hasn't made it at Edgbaston - but good luck to him. Gloucestershire could certainly do with some fresh talent.
I was relying on he who is (allegedly) our wicket keeper for next year to make a big score; but never mind. An annoying last wicket stand is almost as good.
paulbear wrote:
But would the same thing apply if you go into a game with an injury?
I don't think that there is any reference to this in the regulations so I think the same rules would apply.
cjav1874 wrote:
paulbear wrote:
Leicestershire need 86 to avoid the follow on and if they do, it all depends on how many behind they finish (If indeed they do) and how many overs are left for Notts to force a win. Will Notts feel confident that they will set a total which isn't huge or will they eye up the 8 draw points, I think they won't want to lose 8 points and lose just to get 8 more for a win. Depending on how many wickets they get in the next 22 overs, Notts could be level with us if they draw.
Profting, dare I say, from the use of the injury substitution rule which we're still yet to see Warwickshire need this season! In all fairness, picking Brett Hutton in September is screaming out for a muscle injury. If I were more sceptical, I'd suggest he were picked knowing there was an element of protection should he break down!
I guess that Warwickshire know that this rule makes it easier for them to pick Chris Woakes, despite his hernia issue.
Andy wrote:
Only ground in the division where they've started on time is...Taunton. Obviously.
It’s well known that Craig Overton has sold his soul to the weather gods in return for a Championship title.
Definitely enforce the follow on if able to do so.
UrsaMinor wrote:
Days 4 and 5 are probably going to be a tough sell.
Especially since Pakistan have sent seven members of the team and two coaches home. Chief hope of play on days four and five is if weather intervenes on the first three days.
In a scathing article about the signing/non-signing of Scott Kuggeleijn, The Cricketer states that "the Utilita Bowl is a dark, dingy and soulless place at the best of times."
It's not my favourite ground but I didn't think it was that bad.
Regarding Ashes tickets, the Telegraph bemoans the price increase:
"In the Hollies Stand, it is £165, up 43 per cent from £115 for the corresponding fixture four years ago. On top of this, every ticket carries a £2.50 booking fee."
The Telegraph reports:
"Tickets for next week’s Test against Pakistan at Edgbaston have not sold out, despite a reduced capacity because of the construction of an on-site hotel. About 12,000 have sold for the first two days, with a sell-out of 19,000 expected on Friday, day three."
I've only now discovered this revealing interview in The New York Times with Dermot:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6865188/2025/12/12/dermot-reeve-captain-innovator-addict/
Preview from the Hampshire perspective:
https://www.utilitabowl.com/cricket/news/match-preview-hampshire-men-v-warwickshire,-rothesay-county-championship-2026/