Bald_Reynard
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KingofSpain wrote:
Troughton did OK as head coach for us but I think DoC would suit him really well. He may even be able to persuade Bell or Trott to come in to replace Robinson.
If JT did come back as DoC, I think his knowledge of Edgbaston 'politics', could mean he'd be quick to pick up on Robinson's standing at the club and the need to change things. And as KoS says, with his knowledge of the talents of ex-Colleagues, he'd be in prime position to bring in (and persuade) someone like Trotty.
The_Lickey_Banker wrote:
I agree Troughton could be a decent appointment, but I think it's a big jump after 2 years as an Assistant / Batting Coach at Surrey, plus experience as a 'not entirely successful' 1st Team Coach for us (and then Assistant 2nd Team Coach at Somerset), for the role that Larsen had.
Although not great Coaching credentials, perhaps he might be suited to a more administrative role, like Director of Cricket (or whatever title they now give to Larsen's job).He is certainly an intelligent guy (Psychology degree and a Masters in Leadership in Sport) and might make a decent DoC.
The_Lickey_Banker wrote:
Bald_Reynard wrote:
https://edgbaston.com/news/bears-performance-director-larsen-leaves-warwickshire/
Larsen resigned, to go back to New Zealand. Hopefully, the 'Review' will lead to Robinson following him out if the door. A new broom is needed.
Very interesting - again - that no comment from Robinson. About how he will miss Larsen, how much he has enjoyed working with him ..... blah, blah! I'm remain confident that MR is looking at a door which is very much ajar for him!
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that, IF (big if !) the 'Review' concludes that Robinson should go, we'll have to wait to wave a final farewell to him, with the priority to appoint a new Director of Cricket (or whatever title they come up for the job). That person will be tasked with leading the search for a new Head Coach. Robinson will obviously have to stay on, temporarily, to oversee training.
https://edgbaston.com/news/bears-performance-director-larsen-leaves-warwickshire/
Larsen resigned, to go back to New Zealand. Hopefully, the 'Review' will lead to Robinson following him out if the door. A new broom is needed.
The_Lickey_Banker wrote:
https://edgbaston.com/news/new-zealand-test-captain-latham-signs-for-warwickshire/
Good, an experienced opening batsman, with a great pedigree. I wonder, given all the talk from Larsen (again, nothing from Robinson) about, "bringing experience and leadership to our squad", could mean Latham's appointment as Captain (at least in red ball). Obviously, that would depend on what the 'Review' says about Davies's record !
As KoS predicted - a major Overseas signing. NZ Captain - I guess Larsen was instrumental in getting him.
KingofSpain wrote:
The Cricketer has published an article about the review headed 'all options are open' and says the review will be presented by the end of November.
The full article is behind a paywall unfortunately.
Well, without being able to see it, it sounds reasonably hopeful that we might get the resolution most of us want - a 'handshake' to Robinson. "All options are open", does mean the Head Coach's position is being assessed. The timescale of the end of the month, supports the fact that he is still taking training - and the statement by Maiden that one reason he came to Edgbaston was Robinson - when he was appointed (in August), MR was here - and (presumably) he had no knowledge that a new Mens Coach might be on his way in.
I'm reasonably optimistic of the (right?!) outcome of the Review.
GerryShedd wrote:
There's an interview in The Cricketer with Ali Maiden who has joined Warwickshire as women's head coach. There is quite a lot of emphasis on how pleased he is to be joining up again with Mark Robinson (he was assistant coach to Robinson when England women won the World Cup in 2017). So unless Maiden is in for a disappointment, it may be that Robinson is not on his way out.
That is depressing news. I was getting all excited about a Robinson departure - at some point soon.
The_Lickey_Banker wrote:
Bald_Reynard wrote:
Solbear wrote:
KingofSpain wrote:
Players have reported back to Edgbaston. No sign of Robinson...
Not so sure about that - looks like he's supervising training in a video posted on the Bears Facebook page on Monday 11th November....
I expect he's just there temporarily 'covering' early training and nets, until a proper replacement is made. The fact that he's not made any public pronouncements in nearly 2 months, must mean he's on his way.
I agree, that looks most likely. It strikes me, that an appointment has been made, but that person can't take up his role at the moment. Hence no announcement - he will still be under contract elsewhere.
Yes, that sounds quite likely. Intriguingly, one person who is working at the moment (in South Africa?), is an ex-Bear, who has been touted as a possible new Head Coach (you all know who)! I think someone on here speculated that his international and South African work (in a lovely southern hemisphere summer) might mean he wouldn't fancy an Edgbaston return. Well ........ ?!
Solbear wrote:
KingofSpain wrote:
Players have reported back to Edgbaston. No sign of Robinson...
Not so sure about that - looks like he's supervising training in a video posted on the Bears Facebook page on Monday 11th November....
I expect he's just there temporarily 'covering' early training and nets, until a proper replacement is made. The fact that he's not made any public pronouncements in nearly 2 months, must mean he's on his way.
Once again, it is important to note, that with the announcement of MB's retirement, not a word from 'our Head Coach'! Just Larsen responding again!
Yes, it is bad news for us, but as many have said, he won't have made the decision lightly.
Once again, it is important to note - not a word from a certain Head Coach!
GerryShedd wrote:
Alex Davies has extended his contract to cover the next three seasons:
https://edgbaston.com/news/club-captain-davies-pens-one-year-contract-extension/
It's again significant that the Club quote comes from Gavin Larsen, not Mark Robinson.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cn7y2dgrgj2o
I agree Gerry, Robinson again nowhere to be heard. There have been no pronouncements from him since 30 September - that article on the Beeb Cricket site, quoting something he said to BBC CWR (presumably before the 30th), which is no more than a statement that we need to, "draw breath and come back strong" (which no one can argue about !). More significantly, that could be read as a 'valedictory remark', pretty much at the time that the 'September Review' should have been completed !
That's my reading of it, KoS. I think the 'sands have shifted' and Robinson could well be on his way. All the runes in October, seem to indicate that he has been (quietly) pushed aside. No interviews from him, no statements about plans for next season - and most importantly, the club have announced nothing about incoming, or outgoing players. To me, that smacks of, 'no decisions until we get a new Head Coach'.
https://edgbaston.com/news/club-captain-davies-pens-one-year-contract-extension/
Larsen again talking about Davies's contract extension. NOTHING from Robinson! I'm becoming even more confident that he might have departed 'our shores', but, for goodness sake, can someone at the club give us an update. The 'September Review' should have ended 6 weeks ago now!
The picture in that link suggests otherwise to me unfortunately.
I wouldn't place too much emphasis on the photo. Its an old one, taken during the season and they probably don't have one of Davies and Larsen together!
Bald_Reynard wrote:
KingofSpain wrote:
Bald_Reynard wrote:
https://www.cricketworld.com/ethan-bambers-first-interview-as-a-bear/98007.htm
Interview with Ethan Bamber, VERY interesting (possibly!), that all the WCCC part is done by Larsen, there are no comments by Robinson and no mention by Bamber that he is looking forward to working with / benefiting from the coaching of MR ..... blah blah ..... like new recruits often say.
I might be reading too much into this, but I might not be!!
Larsen seems to be front and centre at the moment. Robinson nowhere to be seen or heard.
It's a shame we missed out on Lehmann, a real coup for Northants. That's the calibre of coach we need.That's my reading of it, KoS. I think the 'sands have shifted' and Robinson could well be on his way. All the runes in October, seem to indicate that he has been (quietly) pushed aside. No interviews from him, no statements about plans for next season - and most importantly, the club have announced nothing about incoming, or outgoing players. To me, that smacks of, 'no decisions until we get a new Head Coach'.
https://edgbaston.com/news/club-captain-davies-pens-one-year-contract-extension/
Larsen again talking about Davies's contract extension. NOTHING from Robinson! I'm becoming even more confident that he might have departed 'our shores', but, for goodness sake, can someone at the club give us an update. The 'September Review' should have ended 6 weeks ago now!
KingofSpain wrote:
Bald_Reynard wrote:
https://www.cricketworld.com/ethan-bambers-first-interview-as-a-bear/98007.htm
Interview with Ethan Bamber, VERY interesting (possibly!), that all the WCCC part is done by Larsen, there are no comments by Robinson and no mention by Bamber that he is looking forward to working with / benefiting from the coaching of MR ..... blah blah ..... like new recruits often say.
I might be reading too much into this, but I might not be!!
Larsen seems to be front and centre at the moment. Robinson nowhere to be seen or heard.
It's a shame we missed out on Lehmann, a real coup for Northants. That's the calibre of coach we need.
That's my reading of it, KoS. I think the 'sands have shifted' and Robinson could well be on his way. All the runes in October, seem to indicate that he has been (quietly) pushed aside. No interviews from him, no statements about plans for next season - and most importantly, the club have announced nothing about incoming, or outgoing players. To me, that smacks of, 'no decisions until we get a new Head Coach'.
https://www.cricketworld.com/ethan-bambers-first-interview-as-a-bear/98007.htm
Interesting interview. At no point was there any talk of / by Robinson, just a welcome by Larsen. Strange, I would have thought the Head Coach would have been saying something!
As I said over in the 'End of Season Review' thread, PERHAPS I'm reading too much into Mr Robinson's absence - but perhaps not!
https://www.cricketworld.com/ethan-bambers-first-interview-as-a-bear/98007.htm
Interview with Ethan Bamber, VERY interesting (possibly!), that all the WCCC part is done by Larsen, there are no comments by Robinson and no mention by Bamber that he is looking forward to working with / benefiting from the coaching of MR ..... blah blah ..... like new recruits often say.
I might be reading too much into this, but I might not be!!
Called up for the full England Test squad for New Zealand! A wonderful testament to his potential.
ajones1328 wrote:
Well this has been pathetic
Season can't end soon enough. Definitely need an upheaval in the management with few changes to the playing squad.
Completely agree with you AJ, Robinson has to go to start with - if Larsen has got the balls to sack the man who was on the panel appointing him (!), if not the Management Committee have to act. Once we get a new Head Coach (Trotty - if he can leave Afghanistan ?!), he needs to look at all support Coaches, with Frost first. Then the playing squad (a major overhaul, depending on contracts), then the Captain, then the recruitment policy (Overseas and home based) ....... ! A long and difficult process, but it has to start now.
Team:-
Malik
Isaac Mohammed
Gorantla
Kai Smith (Keeper)
Gekis
Booth
Wylie
Lintott (Captain)
Blakemore
Rao
Chinmay Mullapudi (left arm seamer - from Middlesex 2nds, though has been moving around a lot of other 2nds team this season)
Faheem Basharat (another left arm seamer - do you think we're looking for one!).
Surrey won the toss and (of course) put us in.