An all timer

Agreed.

Entire red ball career been played in Division 2. I wish the lad well but I'm a bit sceptical over this signing to be honest.

His record in red ball cricket is bang average, I wouldn't be rushing to try and shoe horn him into the XI.

Overseas will almost certainly be a seam bowler I'd have thought.

Yeah that's poor.

I think these apparent comments from his mom have clouded things this sort of stuff shouldn't be in the public domain, counties/coaches etc don't like this sort of thing. Its a bit cringeworthy. Still imagine an announcement will be not far away.

Talk on the circuit is that this lad is a bit soft, you can sort of see how it's maybe come about as well...

BristolBear wrote:

Would be a shame, and once again a failure in part by the club to bring through a young home grown fast bowler to be a consistent long term contributor.
Though I feel the injuries have played a big part in this.
He almost looks like he’s trying too hard in T20 and 50 over. Trying to prove he’s still one of the fastest around.
In red ball, it’s more like he knows he’s always a stop gap, so unless he takes a 5 wicket haul he’s getting dropped, so he bowls like he has to take a wicket every ball. Trying too much, not just getting into a rhythm and hitting the top of off for 10-12 balls in a row. I think it’s why he did well on loan, he knew he was going to play so was more relaxed about his approach.

This is a fair take on the situation I'd say.

Lots of home grown players have left the past couple of seasons. It's not a good look.

I've said many a time that this counties record at bringing through homegrown seamers is particularly poor, several have shown promise going all the way back to Nick Warren and then Naqaash Tahir (he's probably the one who had the most success apart from Woakes obviously). Milnes and the Gordon both showed a considerable amount of promise and played quite a bit of first team cricket, they showed more than Garrett and Johal who I just don't think got given proper chances.

Are we giving up on Henry a little too early? 24 year old OHD wasn't exactly pulling up any trees, Henry is ahead of where he was at the same age without question. He's still got 12 months left on his current deal, we're essentially cancelling his contract which feels a bit harsh.

The bowling coach situation probably hasn't has helped things, since he came into the 1st XI he's had Richadson, Welsh, Mason and Barnes, too many different ideas maybe?

There's been a couple of times when Dobell has announced a Warwickshire signing before any official announcement from the club.

Just had a quick at his stats, his record is very modest indeed.

I think that's the bit that stood out for me, 3 years! He must have done incredibly well in the nets. I mean he's 22, talk about going under the radar...

Interesting. Always thought him a bit overrated. He's had loads of issues with illness and injury too. Has pace and can bit though I suppose and he's a left armer which we don't have currently.

I wasn't overly impressed to be honest and he looked like a bit of a comedy fielder. 3 years is a huge show of faith. A full winter of pro training and pre season will do him good though.

Sussex picking up John Simpson is a curious one. Simpson has been terrific but his best days are definitely behind him and the current Sussex keeper Oli Carter seems to have a lot of promise.

Then let us never question the continued selection of Alex Davies ever again as the coaches work with him everyday and see his efforts, general attitude and behaviours.

Yep, I've said a couple of times now our record with bringing through seamers from academy level to 1st team level performers is extremely poor and has been for a long time. We'll often line up with a seam bowling attack made up entirely of recruits from other counties (and according to some we don't recruit from other counties anywhere near enough!), Manny and Garrett both showed demonstrable promise in their first seasons around the 1st XI, several decent performances. Manny looked like he had an action that could get the ball reversing. A good skill. Yes, I'd be interested to know where it all went wrong...good first class debut at Lords after a decent ODC campaign and never seen again, that can't be right.

SC_Bear wrote:

Officially retired. Seems like a throwback to a bygone age now but what a player. Doubt we'll see his like again. Thanks for the memories - particularly captaining an Ashes winning team in Australia. A proper legend and a true gent.

Was he really captain in 2010/11?! I'd have bet my life Strauss was. Blimey, I'd be dead!

Terrific player and person though, totally agree that we won't see his like ever again. You have to respect him for doing 5 years post international retirement with Essex too. A real titan of cricket.

I don't really follow international cricket anymore. It just isn't played on a level playing field and due to the expansion of franchise cricket you just won't often see the best competing against the best anymore. With regards to the World Cup, when it went to 10 teams that was me done. Just a glorified Champions Trophy now. Its been destroyed. Shame.

Yes he definitely seems one worth investing in. We've a few good ones aged 16-18 or so at the moment, definitely a positive.