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I thought Malan was unlucky too, not sure the bowler was very convinced either. Shame because he was starting to look good, let's hope the Captain can make a big score now...

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Hopefully, one day, DRS will be introduced into the County game. Looked a dubious dismissal for Malan.
Anyone know the official decision as to why Chris Woakes was prevented from playing today? He must be getting out of practice and fitness. I just don't see the sense in this at all.

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Probably a minor point, but I've noticed that the concrete walling to the new Pavilion is looking rather shabby and discoloured to the pitch perimeter in particular. Needs some form of paint or over cladding to smarten it up.

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Shame about the finish to the day but that’s what happens with the new ball. And that’s a decent position when being put in.
Thought Malan and Burgess were unlucky, both got rather poor LBW decisions.
The top order was definitely better, with 3 of the 5 getting a score and 1 getting a poor decision. Just need big hundreds now rather than 50’s.

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Absorbing day. Frustrating how it ended from our perspective. Rhodes innings was an odd one, he was beaten so many times, but also played some blistering strokes. Hain never really looked in, he showed his experience and battling qualities to get a score though. Its encouraging. Lamb once again showed calmness and composure, that cover drive off Lyndon James was sublime, hopefully he can take control tomorrow.

Thoughts Notts were generally decent, there was a couple of drops but they fielded well and probably saved 20 runs.

The outfield was slow, it's probably holding a lot of moisture still. Also means that the ball maybe didn't age quite as much as it might normally.

Moores looks like he's one of the better glovemen on the circuit.

I'm quite sunburnt.

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Tom Moores is out of contract at the end of the season, so could be a potential signing, if we decide to move on from Burgess. Another Keeper that will be a free-agent is Riki Wessells.

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Moores looks like he's one of the better glovemen on the circuit.

Unfortunately got to disagree on this part. Seen him keep on red ball a few times now. He does some things well like standing up to Mullaney. But too many costly mistakes, dropping a regulation chance off Rhodes on 6 cost them 85. Plus if the ball comes through at an awkward height standing back, or bounces before him he regularly fumbles, or like yesterday misses it all together. A lot of style over substance on his keeping I’m afraid.
In regards to our keeper going forward, I’d keep Burgess. I’d have him in my top 5 pure keepers in County Cricket. Never costs the team, and makes a lot of grabs others couldn’t.
Think we’re seeing what he can do with the bat too, just a shame he got an excellent ball against Essex and a bad decision in this match. He plays all formats, and seems to be popular amongst the team.
I don’t think there’s any keepers this year we would be interested in, the chance was when Cox was available, but by all accounts the club didn’t pursue him, as he wanted to get paid a great deal, and had his eyes on Yorkshire and Middlesex.

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Entirely fair enough. I'd have probably agreed with you 3 or 4 years ago. He's come on heaps though. Does well when I've seen him at Trent Bridge where there's a lot of wobble after the ball has passed the batsman. Them 2 takes down the leg side when he was stood up to Fletcher bowling with the new ball were excellent. Like Burgess he plays all 3 formats.

Debating the abilities of Tom Moores isn't the hill to die on though!

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Wish I hadn't have talked him up now, screamer...

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And just a beautiful six from Norwell! Lots happening this morning.

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From 238-3 I am rather disappointed that we are struggling to get to 300. I felt 350+was on for much of yesterday but an inability to progress the score when players were ‘in’ was frustrating.

Granted we are out of form as a batting unit and we were put in to bat.

Only six more needed so we may get the much needed extra batting point.

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My word there was some tension on that 110 over bonus point cut off! I consider our batting better than last year and unquestionably it's best days are ahead of us ... however we nearly made a total mess of that. Seemed stuck between a plan of accelerating for the third batting point while stodging to stop them getting their third bowling point. To have laid the foundation of 230/3 then lose wickets just at the time they needed to accelerate is one of the many batting strategies they need to work on.

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Excellent from Norwell and OHD this morning.
But very different bowling from Notts. Yesterday they were economical even if not getting wickets. Today they’re serving up a lot of “hit me” balls.
On the collapse, I think you’re usually going to see the second new ball have an effect, so that explains it somewhat. But I also think losing Malan and Burgess to very poor umpiring decisions on day one really hurt. If 2 of your 6 wickets are clearly not out, and with them being 2 of your more fluent batsmen that is going to limit how well you can attack later on, and bonus points too.

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Any idea why Hameed is allowed to play after his call up but Sibley isn’t? Seems a trifle unfair. I suppose he may not be seen as an England starter unlike Sibley but it still looks like double standards!

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I thought that Notts' field placings were a little odd- I know that Norwell was hitting out, but it seemed that they had every man on the fence at one point, resulting in several easy singles for him and OHD. Ah well, not our concern of course...

Interesting decision regarding Hameed; I would be interested to hear the reasoning behind the decision. With regards to this match, selfishly I obviously want him out cheaply, but with regards to him and England it would be good to see him get a few. He has all the talent to succeed at the highest level, if he can harness it.


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Andy wrote:

Wish I hadn't have talked him up now, screamer...

But that proves my point. Does the glamorous things well. But also let through more byes this morning and more untidy fumbles for what should he straight forward takes.

I mean imagine if he hadn’t cost Notts 85 runs by dropping an easier chance off Rhodes on 6......

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It’s my first visit to Edgbaston today since 2019 and it’s made me realise just how much I’ve missed a day of county championship cricket! Great last wicket partnership and I agree about the odd field placement - at one point they had both a mid-off and long-off at the same time!

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Tea being taken now- a most frustrating rain break this; drizzle so light that most at the ground haven't bothered with an umbrella, the sun is trying to break through now too, despite the continuing rain...


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Great last wicket stand this morning, OHD looked like a proper batsman at times! Re Tom Moore's keeping, whenever I see him play he seems a real curate's egg of a keeper, very good some of the time but very sloppy at others. Overall, certainly don't think he's any better than Burgess.

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Any idea why Hameed is allowed to play after his call up but Sibley isn’t? Seems a trifle unfair. I suppose he may not be seen as an England starter unlike Sibley but it still looks like double standards!

Warwickshire always seem to get poor treatment over their England players. The Woakes treatment beggars belief! Absolute disgrace that he's not playing in this game.