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A quick return to action today.
I will be interested to see the crowd size today compared with last Saturday when there was a really good crowd. I'm all in favour of encouraging women's cricket and back-to-back women's and men's games seems like a good idea. But whether playing a Bears match on a Saturday evening rather than in the afternoon will work is another matter.
I'm probably biased because I don't want to face an almost two hour journey home late at night so am put off attending.

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Same here Terry. We're only up the road but we just can't get enthused about Sat night games. Sat in the garden now debating whether to bother.

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GerryShedd wrote:

A quick return to action today.
I will be interested to see the crowd size today compared with last Saturday when there was a really good crowd. I'm all in favour of encouraging women's cricket and back-to-back women's and men's games seems like a good idea. But whether playing a Bears match on a Saturday evening rather than in the afternoon will work is another matter.
I'm probably biased because I don't want to face an almost two hour journey home late at night so am put off attending.

You could always stay overnight at the Hyatt....................ha ha

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Well I do sometimes stay with a friend who designates his spare room The Ian Bell Suite.

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Think Saturday night is a good time to play, Saturday afternoons are for club cricket!

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Think Saturday night is a good time to play, Saturday afternoons are for club cricket!

But club cricket would finish too late to go on to watch the game so I can't see the advantage.

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You ain't gotta stay til the end, it ain't like you've paid for a ticket.

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And lots of the games do finish before 6.30pm.

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Poor bowling again from our seamers, bowling into the pitch and it is sitting up to be hit by Notts. Wides, leg side and short length balls just getting punished. It is putting too much pressure on the spinners who have done well but too much of it and the batsmen start finding their lengths to hit.

Miles & Brookes together are too similar, tall hit the deck bowlers who send down too many wides & 4 balls. You need a crafty seamer who can take pace off and vary lengths etc.

I thought we were poor in all departments vs Derbys the other night.....which is ok as otherwise up to then we had been really good.

I hope we do not fall away after a good start to the campaign like last season

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Don't understand the team selection or the decision to bowl first. Moeen needs to get out of IPL mode quickly.

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Yates for Benjamin

Rhodes for Barnard

Maxwell to up his game

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ajones1328 wrote:

Yates for Benjamin

Rhodes for Barnard

Maxwell to up his game

Who comes in for Ali ?

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A new signing not only walks in to an unbeaten side but comes in as captain. If Moeen was coming in as captain he should have been there from the beginning. To drop Yates just so he can open the batting was another error. It wouldn't be so bad if he had done anything to justify his place. The contrast of the past two games to what had gone before can't just be coincidence. I did say before if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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Moeen Ali seems to be in Grant Elliott mode, "Oo, pitch looks good, nice blue sky and ideal for batting. Aaaah, we'll have a bowl". Madness. If we don't end up in a great state in this group, the management need to come up with a better plan. We have made 200+ on so many occasions whilst batting first last season and this and yet you wonder if Moeen has actually done any homework on this and looked at stats. Stats do not tell the whole story of a team but some stats stare you in the face and I am afraid this whole T20 group could get out of hand if we do not realise our strengths and the captain must know this or is not much use as a captain.

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Moeen Ali seems to be in Grant Elliott mode, "Oo, pitch looks good, nice blue sky and ideal for batting. Aaaah, we'll have a bowl". Madness. If we don't end up in a great state in this group, the management need to come up with a better plan. We have made 200+ on so many occasions whilst batting first last season and this and yet you wonder if Moeen has actually done any homework on this and looked at stats. Stats do not tell the whole story of a team but some stats stare you in the face and I am afraid this whole T20 group could get out of hand if we do not realise our strengths and the captain must know this or is not much use as a captain.

Spot on!

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We did score 200+ today though. Although I didn’t think we would and we left it too late to attack. Hain was sublime and without him we would be in a mess.

For me today the difference was one of their ‘big’ players scored big. Hales failed but Munro delivered. Both of ours, Ali and Maxwell simply didn’t deliver.

Having done absolutely no research at all I think Maxwell is coming in too high, I don’t know where he has played in other competitions but I always thought of him as a number 5.

I’d drop Benjamin, who hasn’t really contributed any significant runs, bring Yates back in at the top and move Ali to 3, Sam at 4 and Maxwell 5.

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We did score 200+ today though. Although I didn’t think we would and we left it too late to attack. Hain was sublime and without him we would be in a mess.

For me today the difference was one of their ‘big’ players scored big. Hales failed but Munro delivered. Both of ours, Ali and Maxwell simply didn’t deliver.

Having done absolutely no research at all I think Maxwell is coming in too high, I don’t know where he has played in other competitions but I always thought of him as a number 5.

I’d drop Benjamin, who hasn’t really contributed any significant runs, bring Yates back in at the top and move Ali to 3, Sam at 4 and Maxwell 5.

That order makes a lot of sense.

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Streetly_Bear wrote:

We did score 200+ today though. Although I didn’t think we would and we left it too late to attack. Hain was sublime and without him we would be in a mess.

For me today the difference was one of their ‘big’ players scored big. Hales failed but Munro delivered. Both of ours, Ali and Maxwell simply didn’t deliver.

Having done absolutely no research at all I think Maxwell is coming in too high, I don’t know where he has played in other competitions but I always thought of him as a number 5.

I’d drop Benjamin, who hasn’t really contributed any significant runs, bring Yates back in at the top and move Ali to 3, Sam at 4 and Maxwell 5.

That order makes a lot of sense.

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Playing so late seems to me to negate the advantage gained in having a fixture on a weekend day. Surely there need not be such a long gap between the Double header games 2pm and 5pm would've been preferable to me.

Crowd couldn't have been much above 8 or 9,000 although the actual members section in front of the Dollery bar looked fuller than for the Blast off fixture much more sparse elsewhere

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Moeen needs to get a handle on this situation pretty quickly.

Feel desperately sorry for Rob Yates. I'd have thought Benjamin and Lintott are looking pretty vulnerable here. Barnard might be looking like a bit of a passenger too but his batting seems to have a bit of poke to be fair.

Hain atlas like in this line up right now, actually hitting good deliveries for boundaries. Mousley looked good too but my word he has some poor dismissals.

Maxwell trying too hard to impose himself.

We'll be fine.