GerryShedd wrote:

62 off 32 balls for England today.
In this form we won’t see much of him for Warks next season sadly. The franchises and England will hog him.

Agree, though it wasn’t enough to win the match.

Bethell should be in line for his test debut this week. Jordan Cox has broken a thumb and Ollie Pope will have to take the gloves for the first test while they await Ollie Robinson's arrival as replacement wicketkeeper.

Jacob has been by Royal Challengers Bangalore in the IPL auction.

Presumably this means he misses the first 2 months of the English domestic season.

It’s interesting to see how his profile and reputation has skyrocketed in such a short space of time.

I hope it’s not a case of too much too soon, he will experience bad patches as all players do so I hope he has the right support network around to get him through.

For us it’s going to leave us even further depleted in the batting line up.

I doubt the Bears will see much of him now he is on the international and franchise circuit. There are big holes to fill in our squad.

I'm relatively happy with his involvement in the England teams. I think Warks will lose him for white ball internationals but I don't think he'll have a lot of Test involvement which is about fine for his experience. Looks like he's going to get these games in NZ, from which I think the best that can happen is he finds he had a lot to learn. In a good way. Then he sets about trying to actually make that up.

I'm annoyed generally when we (Warks or England) lose any player to IPL. Don't see any developemt gain from it with the conditions so different.

On our way to Christchurch after a couple of weeks touring this wonderful country. Can't wait to see one of our own make his debut.

Really hope it goes well for him. But picking him to bat at 3 when he hasn’t made a century in professional cricket and has never batted higher than 4 in first class cricket is quite a bold move.

Exiled Bear wrote:

Really hope it goes well for him. But picking him to bat at 3 when he hasn’t made a century in professional cricket and has never batted higher than 4 in first class cricket is quite a bold move.

Surely it will be something like:

Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Bethell

Reports are that he's batting 3.

I hope there is somebody looking after Jacob because there's a lot for a 21 year old to process. Just a few weeks ago he was a county player of promise but with a rather threadbare record of actual achievement. Now, after a handful of (admittedly eye-catching) short knocks in slogball, he's a Test player with an IPL contract. He'll be constantly travelling and changing environments. I hope he does well but I also hope there's someone there to guide him through the inevitable ups and downs.

Exiled Bear wrote:

Really hope it goes well for him. But picking him to bat at 3 when he hasn’t made a century in professional cricket and has never batted higher than 4 in first class cricket is quite a bold move.

Has he ever batted through an entire 2 hour session of first class cricket?

Notts at home and Hants at home?

A first test 50 on debut, and making a good impression in the field. a very promising start to what is hopefully a long and successful test career.

A Test average of 60, can't complain there can we.

Honestly expected Jacob to struggle more than that. Obviously he has a temperament for test cricket. It's an interesting thing to debate whether England have a space at three or not. Pope's had a long run but he's never been totally convincing and him batting six and keeping seemed to work in this game. Do England stick with the lineup from this game or revert to Pope at three then Ollie Robinson goes in with the gloves at six or seven?

I would leave it, with Woakes, Atkinson and Carse at 8,9 and 10 it is a long batting line-up. Pope kept well, made runs and so why bring in a new 'keeper who hasn't played in a while and is making a debut. It appears to be a bad move to change things if it not really needed.

paulbear wrote:

A Test average of 60, can't complain there can we.
Great start. Now go on and beat Ian Bell who was averaging 297 after his first three Test matches.

Yup. That's totally what I was inferring. That England should keep the same side for the second test. However, when it comes to the home tests in 2025 and Aussie away - can you see Jacob as test #3? I somehow can't and don't think this was ever anyone's plan.

paulbear wrote:

I would leave it, with Woakes, Atkinson and Carse at 8,9 and 10 it is a long batting line-up. Pope kept well, made runs and so why bring in a new 'keeper who hasn't played in a while and is making a debut. It appears to be a bad move to change things if it not really needed.