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Don't give Highveld ideas. He'll have him opening instead of Davies.

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5 batters, 1 keeper, 1 genuine all-rounder, 4 bowlers. I know this forum loves a pile on but we cant criticise that can we?

No, that’s a balanced side.
My comment was more about the rest of the season, when it was clear we couldn’t bowl sides out. But played the extra batter, with Burgess at 8.
It didn’t help out the bowling being a bowler down. And it didn’t really help the batting either because we were still reliant on the exact same players, who were still being put in an equally poor situation.
Compare it to Surrey who have gone the other way entirely and who have either had a team make up similar to this one today, but often just went with 6 bats, and a bowling all-rounder at 7 in Clark. At one point they had Curran at 6. Not dissimilar to Hampshire too. Both go much stronger on the bowling, and bowlers who can bat. Rather than stronger on the batting, and batters who can bowl. You can quibble about different players and their abilities but it’s a point of consideration.

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Inspection at midday at Trent Bridge; and no play before lunch at New Road. Be surprised if there are too many results in this rather soggy round of matches!

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A stupid time to play cricket - very rare for decent weather after second week of September.

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Saw someone make the perfect point. This is the part of the season when it matters most, should be the crescendo for teams fighting for the title, promotion and relegation, and the weather is determining the outcome not the players.

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34 overs in and Miles hasn't bowled, any reason? Or just lack of faith from management and captain

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Notts are hammering Warwickshire's attack. Bowling is poor. Why is Woakes missing this important game?

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white-lightning wrote:

Notts are hammering Warwickshire's attack. Bowling is poor. Why is Woakes missing this important game?

Good point when Bashir can play for Somerset. No consistency with England players allowed to turn out for their counties.

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Saw someone make the perfect point. This is the part of the season when it matters most, should be the crescendo for teams fighting for the title, promotion and relegation, and the weather is determining the outcome not the players.

Absolutely. It perhaps explains how Notts are scoring well against some poor Warks bowling. Due to the weather a draw is the likely result it makes it unlikely Notts will get 6 more points than us. Inaddition with today washed out at New Rd it is virtually impossible for Lancs to get enough points to get anywhere near us.
Perhaps it would be better if this round of matches had been played in August and have the 16.4 played in September. Certainly cricket lovers would prefer it and I suspect platers would prefer not fielding for so long in these temperatures!

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Following on with the weather situation 5 matches resulted in no play today and in 3 of those games the match itself is yet to start. It really is making a farce of the County Championship.

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In complaining about Championship cricket being played at this time of the year, we are just showing our ignorance. As the ECB have said, The Hundred is "dominating the British summer sporting calendar”. Forget Wimbledon, The Open Golf, the Epsom Derby or any international football tournaments. They pale into insignificance. The Hundred is the “premier destination for men’s and women’s global cricket superstars”. So four day first-class cricket is quite rightly shoved into the corners of the season. We just need to educate ourselves.

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And then someone from the ECB will wonder where the next batch of Test players are coming from, they never think about the good of the whole game. They will tell us about all the money that certain competitions are making and how 'Grass Roots' cricket will benefit but never think about kids who watch the awful Hundread, they do not want to sit and watch CC cricket at this time of year because they are at school or they will not want to sit and freeze or watch the rain come down, hardly an incentive to provide the next Root/Anderson. We are getting mixed messages though about this so-called dominating Summer format, all the figures appear to point to it losing money so why prop it up if it isn't making money, George Dobell suggests it's losing money and didn't someone from Worcestershire (Chairman?) actually produce a set of figures to say the same.

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Must be fake news. What does George Dobell know anyway? He's only been in and around the game for 30 years or so. And the ECB figures were prepared by Deloitte who have an impeccable record (aside from three recent multi-million pound fines for incompetence and misconduct).

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Gerry I do apologise for showing my ignorance. It is obvious really that the Hundread is such a successit it should be extended to the whole of July and August. The Blast can be slotted in in May and Early September. County Cricket reduced further starting at the beginning of March with the final rounds in October. If I put this idea to the ECB do you think I could claim royalties?

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Got to be worth a try.

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It was the Worcestershire chair Fanos Hira, a chartered accountant who looked at the ECB account books and said hidden costs (ECB core staff members working on The Hundred) were not declared. Also the so-called profit, did not take into account, the £24.7M 'dividend' paid to the counties and the MCC. Whether or not the ECB will manage to pull back this money is all speculation but all this info hardly points to the success that we have been told about. I would think that a qualified chartered accountant who was given access to the ECB accounts should be someone who DOES know what they are talking about.

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358-6, this could still go spectacularly wrong for us especially if Notts get a big score and our batting is staring down 450+. Lancashire might not get a 24 points win but we might not get a batting point so we shouldn't be thinking that we are out of it yet. If points are level, we have only won 1 game so still all to play for.

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OHD has taken 50 wickets for the season, for the third year in a row.

He deserves a good break over the winter.

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I agree, will feel a lot happier if Lancs bat badly. Congrats to OHD by the way on his 50th! Unfortunately my initial impressions of Booth are that he's like Miles and no better than Brookes or Garrett who we let go. Need some serious bowling upgrades next season.

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I’m clinging to the crumb of comfort that it does look like a good batting pitch. And that we’re still in the first innings going into the second session on the 3rd day.
As long as we don’t throw wickets away, we can take time out the game, to ensure it ends as a draw.